Teks -- Hebrews 12:5 (NET)

12:5 And have you forgotten the exhortation addressed to you as sons? “My son, do not scorn the Lord’s discipline or give up when he corrects you.

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Robertson: Heb 12:5 - Ye have forgotten

Ye have forgotten ( eklelēsthe ).

Perfect middle indicative of eklanthanō , to cause to forget, old verb, here only in the N.T. with genitive case as usual.

Robertson: Heb 12:5 - Reasoneth with you

Reasoneth with you ( humin dialegetai ).

Present middle indicative of dialegomai , old verb to ponder different (dia -) things, to converse, with dative. Cf. Act 19:8. The quotation is from Pro 3:11.

Robertson: Heb 12:5 - Regard not lightly

Regard not lightly ( mē oligōrei ).

Prohibition with mē and the present active imperative of oligōreō , old verb from oligōros and this from oligos (little) and hōra (hour), old verb, here only in N.T.

Robertson: Heb 12:5 - Chastening

Chastening ( paideias ).

Old word from paideuō , to train a child (pais ), instruction (2Ti 3:16), which naturally includes correction and punishment as here. See also Eph 6:4.

Robertson: Heb 12:5 - Nor faint

Nor faint ( mēde ekluou ).

Prohibition with mē and present passive imperative of ekluō (see Heb 12:3).

Vincent: Heb 12:5 - Ye have forgotten

Ye have forgotten ( ἐκλέλησθε )

N.T.o . Common in Class., o lxx. The simple verb λανθάνειν means to escape notice ; to be unseen or unknown . Middle and passive, to let a thing escape ; forget . Some render interrogatively, " have ye forgotten?"

Vincent: Heb 12:5 - Speaketh unto you

Speaketh unto you ( ὑμῖν διαλέγεται )

The verb always in the sense of mutual converse or discussion . See Mar 9:34; Act 17:2; Act 18:19. Rend. " reasoneth with you."

Vincent: Heb 12:5 - My son, etc

My son, etc.

From Pro 3:11, Pro 3:12. Comp. Job 5:17.

Vincent: Heb 12:5 - Despise not

Despise not ( μὴ ὀλιγώρει )

N.T.o . lxx only in this passage. Quite often in Class. It means to make little of (ὀλίγος ).

Vincent: Heb 12:5 - Chastening

Chastening ( παιδείας )

Mostly in Hebrews. See on Eph 6:4, and see on 2Ti 3:16.

Wesley: Heb 12:5 - And yet ye seem already to have forgotten the exhortation

Wherein God speaketh to you with the utmost tenderness.

Wesley: Heb 12:5 - Despise not thou the chastening of the Lord

Do not slight or make little of it; do not impute any affliction to chance or second causes but see and revere the hand of God in it.

Wesley: Heb 12:5 - Neither faint when thou art rebuked of him

But endure it patiently and fruitfully. Pro 3:11, &c.

JFB: Heb 12:5 - forgotten

"utterly," so the Greek. Compare Heb 12:15-17, in which he implies how utterly some of them had forgotten God's word. His exhortation ought to have more effect on you than the cheers and exhortations of the spectators have on the competitors striving in the games.

JFB: Heb 12:5 - which

Greek, "the which," of which the following is a specimen [ALFORD].

JFB: Heb 12:5 - speaketh unto you

As in a dialogue or discourse, so the Greek, implying God's loving condescension (compare Isa 1:18).

JFB: Heb 12:5 - despise not

Literally, "Do not hold of little account." Betraying a contumacious spirit of unbelief (Heb 3:12), as "faint" implies a broken-down, weak, and desponding spirit. "Chastening" is to be borne with "subjection" (Heb 12:9); "rebuke" (more severe than chastening) is to be borne with endurance (Heb 12:7). "Some in adversity kick against God's will, others despond; neither is to be done by the Christian, who is peculiarly the child of God. To him such adverse things occur only by the decree of God, and that designed in kindness, namely, to remove the defilements adhering to the believer, and to exercise his patience" [GROTIUS].

Clarke: Heb 12:5 - And ye have forgotten

And ye have forgotten - Or, have ye forgotten the exhortation? This quotation is made from Pro 3:11, Pro 3:12, and shows that the address there, which at first sight appears to be from Solomon to his son, or from some fatherly man to a person in affliction, is properly from God himself to any person in persecution, affliction, or distress

Clarke: Heb 12:5 - Despise not thou the chastening

Despise not thou the chastening - Μη ολιγωρει παιδειας Κυριου· Do not neglect the correction of the Lord. That man neglects correction, and profits not by it, who does not see the hand of God in it; or, in other words, does not fear the rod and him who hath appointed it, and, consequently, does not humble himself under the mighty hand of God, deplore his sin, deprecate Divine judgment, and pray for mercy

Clarke: Heb 12:5 - Nor faint

Nor faint - Do not be discouraged nor despair, for the reasons immediately alleged.

Calvin: Heb 12:5 - NO PHRASE

5.=== And ye have forgotten, === etc. I read the words as a question; for he asks, whether they had forgotten, intimating that it was not yet time to forget. But he enters here on the doctrine, that it is useful and needful for us to be disciplined by the cross; and he refers to the testimony of Solomon, which includes two parts; the first is, that we are not to reject the Lord’s correction; and in the second the reason is given, because the Lord loves those whom he chastises. ²⁴⁶ But as Solomon thus begins, my “Son”, the Apostle reminds us that we ought to be allured by so sweet and kind a word, as that this exhortation should wholly penetrate into our hearts. ²⁴⁷

Now Solomon’s argument is this: — If the scourges of God testify his love towards us, it is a shame that they should be regarded with dislike or hatred. For they who bear not to be chastised by God for their own salvation, yea, who reject a proof of his paternal kindness, must be extremely ungrateful.

Defender: Heb 12:5 - speaketh unto you

Heb 11:5, Heb 11:6 are quoted (interpretively) from Pro 3:11, Pro 3:12. A very similar exhortation is found also in Job 5:17, Psa 94:12 and Rev 3:19."

TSK: Heb 12:5 - ye have forgotten // the exhortation // despise // nor faint

ye have forgotten : Deu 4:9, Deu 4:10; Psa 119:16, Psa 119:83, Psa 119:109; Pro 3:1, Pro 4:5; Mat 16:9, Mat 16:10; Luk 24:6, Luk 24:8

the exhortation : Heb 12:7; Pro 3:11, Pro 3:12

despise : Job 5:17, Job 5:18, Job 34:31; Psa 94:12, Psa 118:18, Psa 119:75; Jer 31:18; 1Co 11:32; Jam 1:12; Rev 3:19

nor faint : Heb 12:3, Heb 12:4; Jos 7:7-11; 2Sa 6:7-10; 1Ch 13:9-13, 1Ch 15:12, 1Ch 15:13; Psa 6:1, Psa 6:2; 2Co 4:8, 2Co 4:9, 2Co 12:9, 2Co 12:10

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Poole: Heb 12:5 - And ye have forgotten // The exhortation // Which speaketh unto you as unto children // My son // Despise not thou the chastening of the Lord // Nor faint when thou art rebuked of him

And ye have forgotteneklelhsye , whether rendered interrogatively: have ye forgotten? Or positively: ye have forgotten; either way it carrieth a check upon their forgetfulness of what was of the greatest importance for them to remember in the time of persecutions, and implieth a direction of them to their duty, that they ought to remember the counsel or command given by God to them, how to interpret these persecutions for Christ and the gospel, and how to improve them; and so introduceth a further help to their rnnning of the race of God with patience.

The exhortationparaklhsewv notes properly consolation, and is here a consolatory exhortation to the management of a duty which would be highly such to them, and a dehortation from an evil which would greatly prejudice them; when it is said to speak, it is a metonymy of the effect for the efficient; the Lord in the exhortation speaking this to them.

Which speaketh unto you as unto children: these words were written by Solomon, from God unto his children in that time; and God speaks no less by him to these Hebrews, who were his children now, as to all others who are such, or should be such, children to him. And whereas it is spoken singularly:

My son it is to every child of God in Christ Jesus, and so collectively includeth all of them.

Despise not thou the chastening of the Lord: the dehortation is written in Pro 3:11 , that not one of these children should care little for, or set light by, denying all regardlessness, senselessness of, and incorrigibleness under, such smart correction as a parent gives to a child, either by himself, or by any other to whose care it is committed; but this chastening is from the Lord, the most gracious and tender Father, who can do them no evil, and will profit and benefit them by it. As they come from their persecutors for the sake of Christ, they are injuries; but as ordered by God their Father, they are so many favours to them, preventing sin, preserving in duty, and preparing them for blessedness.

Nor faint when thou art rebuked of him nor to nauseate his rebukes, or to faint under them; neither to let our faith or hope in our Father fail, nor to sink in our love to him, his way, or truth, or religion; nor to be weary, and give over our course, because of persecutions, but continuing faithful to him to the end, Heb 12:14,15 Mt 10:22 Luk 22:28,29 .

PBC: Heb 12:5

Our Father’s Child-Training Program Heb 12:5-11

Why does the writer of Hebrews develop the subject of " Divine chastening" right on the heels of such an encouraging passage to persevere in the face of tremendous obstacles? Because he wants to give the Hebrews a new context in which to think of their trials and difficulties. The author’s point is powerful: " Learn to think of your troubles in terms of your loving Heavenly Father’s program of making you holy." That’s the motivation behind juxtaposing this passage on chastisement with the previous passage on faithfulness in times of trial.

In other words, the Hebrews needed a new grid in which to think about their problems. They needed to recover the big picture. They were thinking only in terms of their personal losses and crosses. They had " forgotten" the fact that they were God’s beloved children and that He was their Heavenly Father.

Don’t Forget Your Father (Heb 12:5)a

The Hebrews were buckling beneath the opposition because they had forgotten the Scripture that addressed them as children who must be meek under affliction’s rod. {Pr 3:11-12; Ps 94:12} As a wise and loving Father, He is committed to training His children in godliness, even though that process inevitably involves pain and hardship. Our author wants his readers to learn to view their struggles as trials that the Father has permitted in order to bring them to spiritual maturity. The next time you are reeling beneath a wave of trouble and trial, don’t forget that God is your Father. Suffering is one of His methods of training His children to " partake of His holiness" .{Heb 12:10}

Chastening simply means " child training" or discipline. It includes both the thoughts of preventative training (i.e. verbal instruction) and corrective training (i.e. the application of the rod). Heb 12:5 suggests both thoughts: " ... the chastening of the Lord" is the more general thought referring to all kinds of parental instruction to a child, and " ... when thou art rebuked of Him" is the more specific thought of correction when a child has done wrong. When the Father counsels us, we are not to " despise" his chastening. When the Father corrects us, we are not to " faint" in discouragement.

Why? Because Divine chastening is an evidence of His love for us and our status as His children. {Heb 12:6-8} As a righteous Judge, God punishes his enemies, but as a loving Father, He chastens his children. As Charles Bridges said, " The scourge of the Judge is widely different from the rod of the Father."

It is a fact that God will discipline every one of His children. In fact, the individual who never experiences the Father’s chastening is not one of His. {Heb 12:7-8} The Puritan John Trapp said, " Corrections are pledges of our adoption and badges of our sonship. One Son God hath without sin, but none without sorrow. As God corrects none but his own, so all that are his shall be sure to have it; and they shall take it for a favor too, 1Co 11:32."

Don’t Despise, But Submit {Heb 12:9}

How then, should a Christian respond when his Father allows him to experience severe testings and difficulties? He must neither despise it in rebellion, nor despair in defeat, but take it as a proof that he belongs to the Father, submitting humbly to the sovereign God who is his Father.

But how can one be submissive beneath the blow? By remembering, first, that it is " for our profit."  {Heb 12:9} God does not chasten or afflict because he is capricious or unkind. {La 3:33} His goal is to make us like Himself, " partakers of His holiness." Trials are, in a very real sense, for our own good. To those who improve the trial for their own spiritual growth, that is, " to those who are exercised thereby," discipline, though unpleasant at first, yields long-term spiritual fruit. {Heb 12:12}

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Haydock: Heb 12:5 - You have forgotten the consolation

You have forgotten the consolation, &c. He puts them in mind, that it ought to be a subject of great comfort to them, that God calls them his children, his sons, and treats them as his true and legitimate children, when he admonished them to live under the discipline and obedience to him, when, to correct their disobedient and sinful ways, he sends the afflictions and persecutions in this world, which they ought to look upon as marks of his fatherly tenderness; for this is what a prudent kind father does to his legitimate children, of whom he takes the greatest care: and not to use these corrections, is to neglect them, as if they were [3]illegitimate children. We reverence the father of our flesh, (ver. 10.) our parents in this world, when they instruct and correct us, how much more ought we to obey the Father and Creator of spirits, (i.e. of our souls) that being truly sanctified by him, we may live and obtain life everlasting. (Witham)

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Gill: Heb 12:5 - And ye have forgotten the exhortation // which speaketh unto you as unto children // my son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord // nor faint when thou art rebuked of him

And ye have forgotten the exhortation,.... Or consolation, the consolatory word or doctrine, in Pro 3:11. This, by their conduct, the apostle feared they had forgotten, and therefore puts them in mind of it; or it may be read by way of question, "and have ye forgotten?", &c. do not ye remember? it would be right to call it to mind:

which speaketh unto you as unto children; not as the children of Solomon, but as the children of God, or of Christ, the wisdom of God: here, by a prosopopeia, the word of exhortation is introduced as a person speaking,

my son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord; by which is meant, not vindictive punishment; this would not be speaking to them, nor dealing with them as children, and would be contrary to the love of God towards them; besides, chastisement in this sense has been upon Christ for them, and it would be unjust to lay it on them again; but a fatherly correction is designed, and which is given in love by God, as a Father, and for the instruction of his children, as the word used signifies: and it is called not the chastening of men, but of the Lord; every chastening, or afflictive providence, is appointed by God, and is looked upon by believers, when grace is in exercise, as coming from him; and it is directed, and governed, and limited by him, and is overruled by him for his own glory, and their good: and this is not to be despised, as something nauseous and loathsome, or as not useful and unprofitable, or as insignificant and unworthy of notice, but should be esteemed for the good ends, which are sometimes answered, by it:

nor faint when thou art rebuked of him; God has various ways of rebuking, reproving, and convincing, sometimes by his Spirit, sometimes by his word and ministers, and sometimes by afflictive providences; by these he rebukes his people for their sins, convinces them of them, and brings them to acknowledgment and confession; he makes them hereby sensible of their duty, in which they have been remiss, and brings them to a more constant and fervent discharge of it; he reproves them for, and convinces of their folly in trusting in the creature, or loving it too much, and of every wrong way they have been walking in; and these rebukes are not in a way of wrath, but love, and therefore saints should not faint at them: there are two extremes they are apt to run into, under such a dispensation; either to take no notice, and make light of an affliction, or else to be overwhelmed by it, and sink under it; both are guarded against in this exhortation.