Ayub 30:8

30:8 Sons of senseless and nameless people, ¹ 

they were driven out of the land with whips. ² 

Ayub 36:12

36:12 But if they refuse to listen,

they pass over the river of death, ³ 

and expire without knowledge.

[30:8]  ¹ tn The “sons of the senseless” (נָבָל, naval) means they were mentally and morally base and defective; and “sons of no-name” means without honor and respect, worthless (because not named).

[30:8]  ² tn Heb “they were whipped from the land” (cf. ESV) or “they were cast out from the land” (HALOT 697 s.v. נכא). J. E. Hartley (Job [NICOT], 397) follows Gordis suggests that the meaning is “brought lower than the ground.”

[36:12]  ³ tn This is a similar expression to the one in Job 33:18, where the suggestion was made by many that it means crossing over the canal or river of death. Some retain the earlier interpretation of “perish by the sword” (cf. NIV).