Roma 4:16

4:16 For this reason it is by faith so that it may be by grace, ¹  with the result that the promise may be certain to all the descendants – not only to those who are under the law, but also to those who have the faith of Abraham, ²  who is the father of us all

Ibrani 12:9

12:9 Besides, we have experienced discipline from ³  our earthly fathers ⁴  and we respected them; shall we not submit ourselves all the more to the Father of spirits and receive life? ⁵ 

[4:16]  ¹ tn Grk “that it might be according to grace.”

[4:16]  ² tn Grk “those who are of the faith of Abraham.”

[12:9]  ³ tn Grk “we had our earthly fathers as discipliners.”

[12:9]  ⁴ tn Grk “the fathers of our flesh.” In Hebrews, “flesh” is a characteristic way of speaking about outward, physical, earthly life (cf. Heb 5:7; 9:10, 13), as opposed to the inward or spiritual dimensions of life.

[12:9]  ⁵ tn Grk “and live.”

[12:9]  sn Submit ourselves…to the Father of spirits and receive life. This idea is drawn from Proverbs, where the Lord’s discipline brings life, while resistance to it leads to death (cf. Prov 4:13; 6:23; 10:17; 16:17).